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Glitch: Batter retired on 2nd-column 7 on H&R

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    RandySteinman GO Guru
    wrote on last edited by RandySteinman
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    '34 Cardinals at '19 Reds in a GTOP solitaire game.
    With a runner (Orsatti) on first base, the Cards try a hit-and-run against Cincinnati’s Hod Eller (A-YZ).
    Durocher rolls a first-column ‘0’ and a second-column ‘7’, but is incorrectly thrown out at first.
    Eller’s A-grade should not come into play here, as I understand the master booklet.
    Will send details to GO Support.
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    TSBL GO Guru
    wrote on last edited by
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    yes that has been ongoing game issue second column singles are effected by pitcher grade on H&R. not supposed to be according to HR rule book

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    jsbennett The Regulars
    wrote on last edited by
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    Actually, the play is correct.

    From the APBA Basic Hit and Run, Runner on First:

    #7 SINGLE to right, runner to third (AGAINST GRADE A, A&C or A&B PITCHERS, see result No. 26 below)

    #26 Out at first, runner to second A-2B PO 1B

    Hope this helps.

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    wrote on last edited by
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    right but a second column 7? I was sure it says someplace 2nd column numbers not effected by pitchers grade?

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    jsbennett The Regulars
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    Nope, the H&R results come from the APBA H&R chart. Certain results are modified by pitcher’s grades. Rember, it isn’t the normal batting chart where second column results don’t get modified. Hope this helps.

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    RandySteinman GO Guru
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    @jsbennett I disagree. The most recent game booklet (published 2013) says SECOND-column 7’s and 8’s are NOT subject to change because of Pitcher’s grade. Since APBA GO didn’t come out until 2016, the play result described above would be incorrect…

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    TSBL GO Guru
    wrote on last edited by
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    yup thats how we have always played it since 1975

    Im pretty sure the old HR 70’sbook said the same thing ill dig it out

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    TSBL GO Guru
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    TSBL GO Guru
    wrote on last edited by
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    copyright 1976 HR book above

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    josephas2 The Regulars
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    This issue continues to come up. I had a second column 8 hit and run yesterday and it got scored as an out should have been a single.

    Is this issue being looked at and corrected?

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