Glitch: Batter retired on 2nd-column 7 on H&R

[RandySteinman]

'34 Cardinals at '19 Reds in a GTOP solitaire game.
With a runner (Orsatti) on first base, the Cards try a hit-and-run against Cincinnati’s Hod Eller (A-YZ).
Durocher rolls a first-column ‘0’ and a second-column ‘7’, but is incorrectly thrown out at first.
Eller’s A-grade should not come into play here, as I understand the master booklet.
Will send details to GO Support.

[TSBL]

yes that has been ongoing game issue second column singles are effected by pitcher grade on H&R. not supposed to be according to HR rule book

[jsbennett]

Actually, the play is correct.

From the APBA Basic Hit and Run, Runner on First:

#7 SINGLE to right, runner to third (AGAINST GRADE A, A&C or A&B PITCHERS, see result No. 26 below)

#26 Out at first, runner to second A-2B PO 1B

Hope this helps.

[TSBL]

right but a second column 7? I was sure it says someplace 2nd column numbers not effected by pitchers grade?

[jsbennett]

Nope, the H&R results come from the APBA H&R chart. Certain results are modified by pitcher’s grades. Rember, it isn’t the normal batting chart where second column results don’t get modified. Hope this helps.

[RandySteinman]

@jsbennett I disagree. The most recent game booklet (published 2013) says SECOND-column 7’s and 8’s are NOT subject to change because of Pitcher’s grade. Since APBA GO didn’t come out until 2016, the play result described above would be incorrect…

[TSBL]

yup thats how we have always played it since 1975

Im pretty sure the old HR 70’sbook said the same thing ill dig it out

[TSBL]

[TSBL]

copyright 1976 HR book above

[josephas2]

This issue continues to come up. I had a second column 8 hit and run yesterday and it got scored as an out should have been a single.

Is this issue being looked at and corrected?