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    @Steve_Admin

    It happens seemingly for no reason. Bottom of 1st or 2nd inning, no PH for the pitcher. Top of 2nd or 3rd inning, immediate relief pitcher who then pitches the next 5 innings…

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    Here is an example with MM Anthony.

    The starting pitcher (Waddell) was replaced after only 2 innings pitched.
    He had only faced 9 batters. His rest/BF number is 33.
    He had given up 0 Earned runs, 3 Unearned runs, and 2 hits.

    Starting pitcher rated Ak, pulled for a reliever rated Dy.

    This has to be unintended behavior(?). Otherwise, I just don’t understand…or we need better descriptions of the MMs…

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    @striker2550 Anthony is intended to be used with teams from the 1995-2005 era. If he is used with a team without relievers, his behavior will be very unpredictable. All of the Micromanagers are intended for use in a specific era; otherwise, their behavior becomes unpredictable. For cross-era games, Malcolm or Pedro might be the better choice for micromanager. - Steve

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    @Steve_Admin

    Thanks for the reply.

    But, I’m still a bit befuddled.

    First let’s discuss “relievers”.
    I assume you mean only pitchers that are in the relievers section when we choose lineups?
    If so, I have issues with this, as many of the pitchers in the “starters” box also have relief appearances…
    But I can live with that. (shrugs)

    As it applies to the above example, the pitcher put in for the starter was a reliever. So I guess that worked ok.

    I think my remaining question is, why did the starter get yanked so quickly??? Because there was only 1 official “reliever” in the bullpen (with 4 other “starters”), and the MM just goes nuts because it doesn’t fit his role?

    Actually I can kinda live with that…I was just hoping for the MM to treat all remaining available pitchers as relievers.

    Thanks for your time etc…

    P.S. I wish we could earn manager points for solitaire games…then I could avoid the MMs.

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    Basically, the Micromanager isn’t playing APBA-ball, where he cares about the starter allowing earned runs vs unearned runs. The Micromanagers look at a pitcher allowing runs as not being effective.

    As for the manager points, that is above my control. - Steve

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    @Steve_Admin

    My sincere apologies for being a pita on this but…this just happened and I want to understand.

    MM Anthony
    Managing 2000 NYM. (correct era/yrs)
    Pitcher (Leiter) pulled after 1 inning.
    He had given up 3 runs on 3 hits.
    But zero (0) Earned Runs.
    Leiter’s Rest/BF# is 29, so that wasn’t a factor.
    See pic.

    Either this is unintended MM behavior or I am just completely befuddled.

    Thanks for you time.

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    The micromanager isn’t concerned with APBA-Ball and a pitcher getting a grade raised by going five innings without allowing an earned run. The Pitcher is removed because the batters are scoring runs and reducing the team’s chance to win the game.

    Franco looks like he was brought into the game since he had a low number of saves and was pitching effectively. He allowed no hits. He remained in the game. Cook was brought into the game, maybe to finish an inning, then to face a left-handed batter leading off the following inning. Benitez led the team in Saves and pitched more innings than games, so he was allowed to go extra innings to keep the team in the game ot get a save. Was this a DH game? Hard to infer much information about the game by just looking at the pitching side of the box score for the MM team. - Steve

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    @Steve_Admin

    Thank you for the reply, I do appreciate your time.

    I understand what you are saying, but my focus is on this… “The Pitcher is removed because the batters are scoring runs and reducing the team’s chance to win the game.”

    I found it hard to believe that 3 unearned runs on 3 hits would trigger that action after the first inning. Ok, I can live with that. It would be cool if we could see more detailed descriptions of the actions/tendencies/etc. of the MMs.

    Thanks again for your time.

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    The micromanagers are using the provided stats to make decisions. There are extreme circumstances that happen in the context of a full season, but when making decision points for Micromanagers, we look at individual games and historical decisions. We haven’t yet provided micromanagers that are tailored to an individual team, much less in a specific season environment. - Steve

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