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CARD Grades ??

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    TSBL GO Guru
    wrote on 29 Jan 2022, 20:27 last edited by
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    Even after 40 years Ill never get the card grades. Two pitchers on almost identically bad teams in 1996

    Belcher (KC 75-86) 15-11, 3.92, 238 IP, 2.6 BB/I =BZ
    Navarro (CHC 76-86) 15-12 3.92, 237 IP 2.7 BB/I =CZ

    You cant get more identical. Exact same team wins, exact same IP, Exact same ERA, same BB/I but one gets a CZ one gets a BZ

    Someone able to shed light on grading system? these are not playoff teams or anything, I even checked the teams offensive runs scored (772 and 756) they are comparable so not like one needs better grade because hitting on team is bad?

    thoughts

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    replied to TSBL on 30 Jan 2022, 02:39 last edited by
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    @TSBL What about fielding grades? Does 1 team have chart 3 (35 or less) with their most used lineups?

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    wrote on 30 Jan 2022, 22:39 last edited by Honus1908
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    @TSBL A lot of the grade is based on the run-scoring environment of the league. AL ERA (4.99) was much higher than NL (4.21) so Belcher’s 3.92 was worth more. When comparing players from different leagues (even if they are the same year), ERA+ is worth a look (though it also factors in park effects). Belcher’s is 126, Navarro’s 110, 100 being average. A more straight-up comparison: Belcher’s ERA represents 79% of League average; Navarro, 93%.

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    TSBL GO Guru
    wrote on 1 Feb 2022, 12:44 last edited by
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    that makes sense thanks never realized they factor in those types variables

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    wrote on 4 Feb 2022, 19:09 last edited by
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    another odd one
    Alan Embree 1997 graded AZZ but has 20 walks in 46 innings for 3.9 BB/I should not even have one Z !!

    maybe because on Atlanta?

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    Honus1908
    replied to TSBL on 6 Feb 2022, 15:53 last edited by
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    @TSBL That’s a genuine error. With a walk rate of 10.5%, Embree is higher than the 1997 National League average of 8.9% and was about two walks away from getting a W.

    @APBA-GO-Jeremy Is there a preferred method of letting Alpharetta know about instances like this?

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    replied to Honus1908 on 7 Feb 2022, 11:32 last edited by
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    @Honus1908 Hi!

    You can send custsupp@apbagames.com a note detailing the issue you found.

    Be sure to state the player name, year, etc. and detail the issue.

    Thanks,
    Jeremy

    APBA GO Product Manager

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